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ich sag nur: samstag abend vorstellungen im lokalen cinestar stand heute schon fast wieder ausgebucht! zusätzliche vorstellung eingeplant.

SOOOO schlecht kann der film der mehrheit nicht gefallen haben. oder die leute gehen trotzdem rein
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vodkamartini hat geschrieben:Die Neugier ist nach wie vor groß. Viele haben ihn ja auch noch nicht gesehen und warten auf Woche 2.
ein enttäuschter kunde gibt seine meinung an 10 leute weiter, ein zufriedener an 2-3 :-)
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vielleicht liegt das auch daran, dass sich einige erhoffen nach dem 3. Besuch endlich die Elemente vor zu finden, welche sie in den ersten beiden Besuchen aufgrund der kunterbunter Schnittregie vielleicht verpasst haben könnten. :wink:
Ne quatsch, klar findet der Film bestimmt auch viel Anklang, in meinem Umfeld ist es aber so, dass die Meinungen viel gespaltener sind als zum Beispiel bei CR. Dennoch wollen alle Bond sehen, vielleicht auch dank des starken Vorgängers?
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Bond... James Bond

"Ach übrigens: Der Drink ist gerührt und nicht geshakt, das war doch in Ordnung?" - "Vollkommen."
(James Bond - Man lebt nur zwei mal)

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KillerMaulwurf hat geschrieben:vielleicht liegt das auch daran, dass sich einige erhoffen nach dem 3. Besuch endlich die Elemente vor zu finden, welche sie in den ersten beiden Besuchen aufgrund der kunterbunter Schnittregie vielleicht verpasst haben könnten. :wink:
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so war es bei mir! ;-)
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edit:

aintitcool.com hat nun kritiken zu QOS.

eine davon ist brillant geschrieben wie ich finde. vor allem geht es um den "nicht vorhandenen plot" und den charakter bonds... eine sehr positive kritik...
außerdem beleuchtet er sehr ausführlich die gründe für den jetzigen stil der filme und das thema "bond passt sich dem zeitgeist an"

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39096#

die andere ebenfalls sehr positiv:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39096

wenn das ein zeichen für USA ist, dann dürfte der film gut ankommen. in jedem fall hat aicn einigen einfluss in bestimmten kreisen
Zuletzt geändert von danielcc am 14. November 2008 12:36, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
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der tomatometer ist schon wieder zurückgegangen, aber der bekannte HARRY von "Ain't it cool News" ist begeistert von QOS:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39102
Oh I love this James Bond.

I sat down today to watch CASINO ROYALE in Blu-Ray, then drove across town for the sold out midnight show of QUANTUM OF SOLACE. It seems that nobody at Sony particularly wanted me to see this film early, but that’s alright – this audience was holy shit great to see the movie with.

But you don’t want to hear about the audience, or the new trailers for STAR TREK, WATCHMEN or THE SPIRIT that we saw. No – you turned to this page to see where I come down on QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

First off, this whole – “It isn’t as good as CASINO ROYALE” bullshit needs to be put aside. For the very first time, in a realistic story telling manner – we have a linked Bond universe. What happens pre-Credits is important to the film that follows – and now, the epilogue is every bit as important to this film as it is to the next film. We’re in the midst of a completely redefined James Bond, that in many ways doesn’t resemble any of our previous Bonds.

Daniel Craig isn’t Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan. But he is Ian Fleming’s 007. Not necessarily a gorgeous man, but a piercing one. He has danger and death written all over him. They don’t mind roughing his face up, giving him scratches and lines. This Bond scars. This Bond bleeds. His lightest fights resemble the one between Sean Connery and Robert Shaw in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, but they are in fact tougher, more brutal.

Craig’s Bond isn’t a surgeon spy, he’s a Bull in a china shop, that knows what it all is and crashes it not because he doesn’t care, not because he doesn’t respect it, but to make a point, to get what he wants, to not be ignored.

The biggest difference between this Bond and all the previous ones is that he’s not ahead of the game, he’s just barely in the game. He doesn’t waltz in as though he is entitled to a seat of the table, but just try to keep him from taking one. This is a Bond that is a part of MI6 that isn’t necessarily the players they were 30-40 years ago. They don’t have the money being thrown at their department as say the CIA or the other players, but there is a doggedness, a sheer aggressive display to catch up, to find out what these new rules are, to find out who the bad guys are and who are the good guys playing with them – and what does it all mean?

Some people would like to say that Bond is motivated sheerly out of revenge for the death of Vesper, but ya know what? I disagree. He’s honoring her life, but not dropping it. He’s pursuing the last leads she gave him. The last remnants of her life point to something larger, something horrible that the world has just caught a whisper of. An organization that’s destabilizing governments, playing the biggest powers in the world opposite one another, yet serving them at all times.

Bond is rogue, because his government doesn’t quite know what he’s found, what he senses. This isn’t so much about Nailing everyone responsible for Lynd’s death, as much as finding out why she died and making that death responsible for something good for the world.

Ok, I’m an optimist and a hopeless romantic, but I see Bond as a Government agent version of Batman, Batman isn’t fighting just the person that killed his parents, he’s fighting the evils of the world so that perhaps no other kid will have to know the pain he has inside of him. Bond knows something big is going on.

In CASINO ROYALE, it seemed to be a guy trying to manipulate the Stock Market through terrorism – the money at stake was over $100 million.

In this film, it isn’t so much a matter of $100 million dollar, but the fate of Bolivia… the entire country. But the film points to something far more sinister… An organization that manipulates the United States, Russia, China, The UK… the POWERS of the world into doing the terrible things we see happening in the world.

This film elevates the stakes. This film tells us that this isn’t about the death of one helluva beautiful lady. This wasn’t about a gambler and $100 million dollars and old school terrorism. This film tells us that the problems with the environment, global economics, social collapse, the wars, the pain and the suffering… that there might be a plot for it all. There’s something evil and dark and corrupt rotting at the world and Bond can smell, he’s caught its scent and he’s after it, even if the world doesn’t give two shits if he figures it out.

This is Pulp JAMES BOND. This is Ian Fleming's James Bond unleashed into the horrorshow that Ian Fleming could never have imagined... the intelligence world of 2008! This is two scoops of Global Political Pandemic Madness. And Bond’s trying to put it together the only way he knows. Following one lead to the next, and the leads are beginning to add up. The leads are advancing his station at MI6. This is getting absolutely fucking fascinating.

This is EXACTLY the JAMES BOND we need for the 21st Century. One that isn’t pretending to be in the geo-political world of the 1950s and 60s. One that isn’t in the science fiction fantasy and tongue-in-cheek bullshit of the 80s and 90s. This is a Bond for the here and now. This is about shooting a man in the leg. This is brutal blunt force savagery unleashed in a Tuxedo and other fine linen. He’s a James Bond that can pass for a Gentleman when he has to, but he’s really a cold blooded killer and it is absolutely exhilarating to behold.

Everyone is fucking great in the film. Seriously. Just fucking great.

I would kill to see a FELIX LEITER series developed from Jeffrey Wright’s CIA man. Fuck Jack Ryan, Felix is the man!

And yes, I am all over the next Bond. Can not wait. But more so, I can’t wait to watch this one again. The film is the next chapter and I don’t want this to be a trilogy, let’s see how far they can take us, cuz I’m willing to hitch my cart to this version of James Bond for the foreseeable future. They’ve nailed it!
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frechheit, genau das wollte ich auch grad kopieren, insb. das ende:

This is EXACTLY the JAMES BOND we need for the 21st Century. One that isn’t pretending to be in the geo-political world of the 1950s and 60s. One that isn’t in the science fiction fantasy and tongue-in-cheek bullshit of the 80s and 90s. This is a Bond for the here and now. This is about shooting a man in the leg. This is brutal blunt force savagery unleashed in a Tuxedo and other fine linen. He’s a James Bond that can pass for a Gentleman when he has to, but he’s really a cold blooded killer and it is absolutely exhilarating to behold.

Everyone is fucking great in the film. Seriously. Just fucking great.

I would kill to see a FELIX LEITER series developed from Jeffrey Wright’s CIA man. Fuck Jack Ryan, Felix is the man!

And yes, I am all over the next Bond. Can not wait. But more so, I can’t wait to watch this one again. The film is the next chapter and I don’t want this to be a trilogy, let’s see how far they can take us, cuz I’m willing to hitch my cart to this version of James Bond for the foreseeable future. They’ve nailed it!
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Die Idee fände ich mindestens genauso bescheuert wie das glücklicherweise versandete Jinx-Projekt. Leiter ist der klassische Sidekick, ein Stichwortgeber der nie und nimmer einen ganzen Film tragen könnte. Wozu auch. Die haben doch Bourne. :wink:

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vodkamartini hat geschrieben:Die Idee fände ich mindestens genauso bescheuert wie das glücklicherweise versandete Jinx-Projekt. Leiter ist der klassische Sidekick, ein Stichwortgeber der nie und nimmer einen ganzen Film tragen könnte. Wozu auch. Die haben doch Bourne. :wink:
Ein Jinx-Film ist in der Tat bescheuert..ebenso ein Leiter aus TLD.

Aber mit dem Charakter, den Jeffrey Wright verköpert könnte man meines Erachtens durchaus etwas gescheites auf die Beine stellen...auch wenns sowas wahrscheinlich niemals geben wird :D

"EON Production presents Jeffrey Wright as Ian Flemin's Felix Leiter in The Brother From Langley" :D :D :D
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weil in letzter zeit wieder sehr viel in die andere richtung berichtet wird: auch das bekannte PREMIERE filmmagazin hat ein sehr positives review zu QOS:

4 Sterne

http://www.premiere.com/moviereviews/48 ... olace.html
Forget all the lukewarm reviews you've already read and the British press' collective whining over the fact that this Bond's got too much action, because Quantum of Solace is the finest installment in the storied franchise's 22-film history. Spring boarding from his art house pedigree and using his love for classic Bond titles From Russia With Love and Goldfinger as inspiration, director Marc Forster has crafted a stylish 007 adventure that's both brutal and light on its feet.

Much like Daniel Craig's chiseled frame (you know, the one that sent ladies swooning when it emerged from the blue Caribbean in the last flick), Quantum of Solace is a Bond film trimmed of all the fat the series has accumulated over its 40+ year run. As everyone knows by now, Bond's latest adventure is — for the first time ever in the typically formulaic franchise — a direct continuation of its predecessor, Casino Royale. But where the latter was a dramatically (and in some cases sluggishly) paced love story, Quantum is a corker that fires on all cylinders as Bond tracks down the baddies behind the death of his ladylove Vesper in Casino Royale.

Bond breathlessly trots across multiple continents and hemispheres as he hunts down the people behind Quantum, a slimy, shape-shifting organization whose hobbies include destabilizing governments, supporting dictators, exploiting natural resources, and getting in bed with the CIA and MI6. Daniel Craig — who seems even more comfortable in the tux this time 'round — plays the ideal Bond for this day and age, both brooding and charming and not afraid to go rogue against a faceless enemy, seemingly helmed by the deliciously slimy Dominic Greene (played to scumbag perfection by Mathieu Amalric).

However, just because Quantum is stripped down and streamlined doesn't mean Forster's skimped on the essential Bondian elements, namely wit, sophistication, and style. Paul Haggis' tight, almost minimalist script still gives enough room for sharp banter between mom-like M and her prodigal 00-son, while Forster peppers set pieces with a retro-futuristic look harking back to the days of Ken Adam. In addition, Olga Kurylenko is fiery hot as the vengeful Camille, a former Bolivian agent who acts more as Bond's accomplice than his bedroom partner. But for all its fine-tuned precision and expertly timed twists, sexy style, and jaw-dropping action sequences, it's Daniel Craig's blue-eyed Bond that steals Quantum's show. Forget his pumped up pecs and closely cropped blond locks; his ability to play a remorseless assassin one moment and a suave, tongue-in-cheek British agent the next is what makes him the best 007 since Connery swaggered onto the screen in the 1960s.

Though critics have complained about Quantum's frantic pace and lack of a definitive resolution, it's important to remember that this is both a revenge film and a dark middle act to what seems to be a 007 trilogy — a prospect that already has us licking our chops for the 23rd installment in the series. Quantum, thanks to a deft blend of exotic escapism and bare-bones modernism, is more than strong enough to be judged on its own. In fact, it's the perfect Bond film.

— James Jung
das ist natürlich ein interessanter ansatz:
Quantum of Solace is a Bond film trimmed of all the fat the series has accumulated over its 40+ year run.
Bond... JamesBond.de